Ulelli: Right. Tell me your name.
Shaun: Hi, my name is Shaun.
Ulelli: Ok, you from?
Ulelli: Tell me a bit about the way you dress and why, and how is it that you feel comfortable dressing like that.
Shaun: Well, I’s mostly wear loose clothing and the reason why I wear it, is because I’s feel comfortable but people’s perception of it is that I dress really masculine but not all about the masculinity is just more about the comfort so,
Ulelli: That’s why you wear, because it’s comfortable for you.
Shaun: Yea, I have certain things I might put on that might enhance the inner masculinity that you have in yourself but I just going on the road, I have on a three quarter pant and a T-shirt and I going it not like I coming out the house and I going like a man today you know that kind ah way. So, is not like that.
Ulelli: How long have you been dressing like this?
Shaun: Since I small.
Ulelli: And how your parents behave about that?
Shaun: I guess they won’t like, they won’t like the typical parents knowing to yourself about sexuality, they would be violent or kick you out or disown you whatever, that wasn’t really my case but they understand to a point but other than that they just, it’s not just something to speak about. I may not be able to go and say I get a girlfriend but they are as understanding as they can possibly be I guess.
Ulelli: What about the people passing on the street, how do they treat you, how they see you?
Shaun: Before it used to be really, really tough and then eventually it, you know I did some reading and they tell me search on the community itself and it help me to be able to accept that this is who I am and not to allow other people’s, other person’s opinion to determine you. Yea.
Ulelli: Ok how is it in school, when you can go to school, you didn’t go to school dressing like a male though?
Shaun: well because the school cloths was shirt and skirt, but that wasn’t something I was able to change unfortunately so I just did it and I would take it off as soon as I got chance I guess it was just for a short period of time so, I just accepted it for what it was that wear a skirt it instead of a pant.
Ulelli: Was it hard?
Shaun: Not really.
Ulelli: You want to talk about your experience in Guyana?
Shaun: Experience with what?
Ulelli: How did people treat you there?
Shaun: so I had the opportunity of going to Guyana and spending three (3) months there, I wasn’t supposed to stay that long, I think I was supposed to stay three (3) weeks but the person end up booking for three (3) months and didn’t tell me so, is only when I reach across there now, something tell me check the ticket to see what day I was going back, I realize it was three (3) months from my arrival time so I said well it would be good to experience a new country, a new culture and to see how they behave towards LGBTQIA members of the community and it was more, the country I stay in the country side so, you didn’t really see a lot of like studs, you didn’t hear much about people being in lesbian relationship, you will hear about the gays more but not so much the lesbians and it wasn’t as prominent visually as it would be in Trinidad where you would walk the streets anywhere and you would see probably Ten (10) person’s I pass, Five (5) of them would have been studs, probably Guyana was a 2 out of 10 ratio so, it was kind ah, it was kind ah weird and also I realize that they kind ah homophobic in the sense that they will just see you walking on the road because they not sure what you are, they just shout out at you, anti-man, or buller-man or something. I didn’t really understand it and when people found out about women being in a lesbian relationship or probably a woman having experience with a woman, it was fascinating to the Guyanese, they, to the point where some of the guys try to force themselves upon a person who was in a lesbian relationship one of the feminine one and they was really disrespectful, they didn’t see the lesbian relationship as a relationship, they just consider it as experience and didn’t see the need to respect that so I would say that I prefer the experiences I had in Trinidad towards Guyana but I think in some years to come probably person’s thinking will have change a bit.
Ulelli: So you think it's better in Trinidad, better situations?
Shaun: Yes I think so, I mean they are some stories but I just felt, I can’t speak for the whole of Guyana because I only stayed in one place in the country but just for my experience judging on that particular area, I realize they very homophobic, when it comes to men, they also homophobic towards the lesbian relationships but they not homophobic to the point where they will want to get violent or want to kill, they will more see it as experience or not being sure on which side of the spectrum whether you is a girl, you boy, you know but again, probably in the near future, things may be able to change slightly and people will be able to be more confident in themselves to come out and walk the streets instead of hiding because I heard there are lots of lesbians in that particular part that I was staying but they just would keep it on the low.
Ulelli: Where in Guyana?
Ulelli: Ok. Alright, thanks.